Western Otaku Thread

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:48:24

I want to know what Japanese people think of the growing population of western otaku. Also, if any Japanese Otaku want to know how western otaku act, feel free to ask.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 08:37:39

HGHPAOH!!!

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 09:32:54

Do Japanese otaku hate themselves as much as Western otaku do?

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 09:55:34

>>58
no they dont
they have pride as otaku
but when they talk with person who is not otaku, they get nervous.
because usually there looks are not good, and it is an inferiority complex for them.
they do not think that their hobby is shame.
thay think looks and figure are there only shame.
but they are usually stupid or idiot, so actualy they should be shame on there mind.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 10:23:52

You are aware that no one is condemning cussing right? Only your unlimited juvenile stupidity.

Once your age past the age of 15 you will realize that "foul language" is not a concept, it is merely a phrase. A noun.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 10:28:21

>>54
whoops, forgot to quote.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 12:37:18

>>60
"Foul language" is not a concept?

lolwut

Go die in a fire, useless imbecile.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 12:53:18

>>62
Jesus, you really are in high school.

I can't possibly hate your posting anymore than I do now. Go back and read a little bit, and you'll see that no one you're attempting to argue with gives a fuck about foul language, just your horrible posting

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 13:14:16

>>63
Your posting is great though.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 14:14:59

oh, how much do you love posting? anyway

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 14:46:10

I wonder if any Japanese people are still here?
Probably, they've fled in response to the spam.
I wouldn't blame them.

**Reimu** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 14:49:05

>>66
Apparently they don't know how to take it easy.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 14:57:18

dont you realize me?

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 14:58:11

>>67
...aren't Yukkuris pretty much universally hated, though?
They're greedy, steal others' possessions, and try to kick people out of their own homes.

...huh. In before obvious joke.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 16:06:30

>>39
Yes, but you miss the point, which is, they're still a minority among the entirety people that would be called "otaku" by Japanese standards.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 16:07:00

hi western otakus.
what made you otaku?
people in your country despise anime-otaku?

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 17:34:52

>>71
The majority of us grew up playing NES (Famicom) and watching Speed
Racer (Mach Go Go Go!), Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, Akira, Macross,
Pokemon, and stuff like that in the 80s and 90s. This sort of thing
was dubbed in English and heavily censored or rewritten but we
enjoyed it anyway as children.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 17:36:02

I am No. 72

>>71
Those of us that haven't learned how to hide our hobbies usually
end up being mercilessly bullied and discriminated against. On
4chan the slang term for this is "hiding your power levels", but
in Japanese this would becalled "honne" and "tatemae"
Scholars and academics writing on this subject talk about honne,
tatemae, hikikomori, and such things as if these concepts were
unique to Japanese culture. I very strongly disagree.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 18:03:05

>>73
it must suck where you live. i've never had to hide the fact that i enjoy unhealthy amounts of video games and anime. just hang out with others who have the same interest.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 18:19:24

>>72
Thank you for answering my question.
I used to play famicon and watch dragon ball and sailor moon, too.
I think people who dont hide their power levels are really cool.
Because they are the real OTAKU!

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 18:21:19

>>74
Your internet buddies don't count.
Try getting a respectable job with an easily googleable history of fansub authorship or anime forum posts attached to your name.
Try dating outside of your race.
If you can read Japanese at all, and you aren't asian, pay close attention to outsiders when you're nose-deep in anything with "Chinese" (any asian language) script on it.
We, as supposed freedom-loving Americans, are far more image-conscious than we would ever admit.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 20:40:03

>>75
Hiding power levels isn't just necessary to avoid bullying.

In America (at least), there are a lot of annoying anime fans who are not true otaku, and one must hide their power level to avoid contact with them.

**American Unko** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 00:40:17

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**maji** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 01:11:49

I think being a fan of anime is a little more acceptable in America then it is in Japan. I mean, if you say that you are a fan of anime in America, average people will just assume "Oh, he's just college student majoring in computer science, no doubt".

Whereas saying that you are a fan of anime in Japan, people will compare you to those one or two otaku serial killers.

**maji** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 07:26:06

>>79
Saying that you are a fan of anime in the US, people will think you're a deranged cosplaying pedophile out to fuck their children.

**maji** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 08:31:30

I should clarify that by no means watching anime or playing videogames is by no means the basis of our identity. I don't define myself as an otaku.
However, good luck communicating this to the sort of image-conscious gossipy busybodies that you go to college or work with. Adolescence may as well end at 30 nowadays.

**maji** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 14:29:43

>>80
No, normal people in the United States have no idea what anime is and don't care to learn.
If you force an American to listen to bullshit about how anime isn't "cartoons" and can be "mature," they'll roll their eyes and assume you're some kind of incompetent, nerdy virgin.

**maji** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 14:43:39

>No, normal people in the United States have no idea what anime is and don't care to learn.
This is no longer true. Everyone and their dog knows what cartoon network and "dragon balls" is, at least by name. Even if they don't care to learn it's entered the public lexicon, either as "anime" or "Japanimation"

**maji** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 14:56:03

>>83
Ok, what I meant was that they absolutely don't care about it. Also, I'm not talking about teenagers, I'm talking about people in their twenties or beyond.
Teenagers might know a little more about anime or whatever, but I don't think there's been any real change in its reputation.
Kids might be earnestly interested in high school, but they'll snap out of it once they get to college and lose their affected "outsider" facades.

**maji** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 15:04:54

>>84
I'm talking about people in their twenties or beyond.
The people who I live and work with every single day of my life still think like this in their 20s and beyond. College and dorm life may as well be 13th grade boarding school. That's what I meant when I said "Adolescence may as well end at 30 nowadays"
Maybe things are different where ever you live.

**maji** · 2008/07/01(Tue) 15:28:50

>>85
Yeah, maybe you're right.
I am talking as a person who is vaguely interested in Japan but has no interest in anime whatsoever.

We're really talking about different degrees of the same response.
My peers are definitely adolescent; I live in fucking Williamsburg, Brooklyn. :/

Then again... narcissism of small differences and all.

**maji** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 00:04:45

Korean pussy tastes like stinky rotten kimchi.

**maji** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 05:44:32

BlackMonkey
http://movie.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/1f0/4AFBEZQaTlw/1

Asia China
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/videonews/nnn/20080702/20080702-00000007-nnn-int.html
http://news.bcst.yahoo.co.jp/news.asx?cid=20080702-00000007-nnn-int-movie-000&media=wm300k

**maji** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 08:21:25

Hello everyone
I'm Japanese student
English is very difficult!

I don't read this thread's respons
I must study English

goodbye!!

**maji** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 10:30:09

>>89
Good luck!

**maji** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 12:29:42

>>83
Nobody remembers the term "Japanimation" except for anime nerds.

And the majority of people in america aren't aware of japanese carttons being referred to as anime. Pokemon, yes, but that's about it.

Everyone in high school or college can define "anime" though. Either way, go outside.

**Reimu** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 12:40:37

Either way, take it easy.

**maji** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 14:12:15

You must never show your true nature.

"'Death Note'? What's that?
"Oh, I see. It's one of those Japanese comic books."

The facade must not be broken.

**maji** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 17:11:21

>>93
It's more like:

"Hey can you actually read that" (referring to a 2ch thread)
"Sorta"
"Whatever you say man" *walks away, makes ching chong noises, grins like retard*

**maji** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 22:09:36

>>94
I hate when people do that. It makes me so angry. Whenever says "Sure" and rolls their eyes in disbelief. I try as hard as I can to not grit my teeth or show any anger.

This of course is no longer a problem because I don't have to deal with people any more.

**American Unko** · 2008/07/02(Wed) 23:07:58

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**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 00:24:25

by is for now

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 00:58:01

>>94
Your first mistake was looking at 2ch in public.
But I sympathize. Those people are dicks.

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 17:09:46

Hi, Foreigners.
Are you going to use a MangaGamer?

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http://www.mangagamer.com/

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http://www.akiba-ch.com/?p=540

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 17:21:00

>>94
there is nothing more i hate more then when people make those "ching chong" noises when referring to any asian language.
though the last time i was in a similar situation to yours was back in 10th grade a long time ago when i was doing my homework for my japanese class. some idiot student in my study hall decided to make a fool of himself making those noises.

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 17:55:00

>>99
That looks interesting. Thanks.

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 18:13:34

>>100
>back in 10th grade
This happened in college D:
I think the "problem" is westerners studying Asian languages. Do French, Italian, or Spanish and you're a educated and cultured. Do Japanese or Chinese and you're a fetishist with the yellow fever.

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 18:31:52

Hi, western otakus.
I happened to watch "Ninja Scroll" a few days ago on NicoNico.
I found it amazing.
Its animations, especially the battle scenes, were really awesome!
Wikipedia says it is far more popular in America than in Japan.
It seems American otakus have really good taste!
I should have watched it earlier.

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 18:36:24

>>103
You're not even trying.

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 18:44:48

>>104
What do you mean?

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 18:50:58

Just stop posting in the thread, faggot.

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 18:54:21

>>106
Why?
What made you angry?

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 19:09:11

test

**maji** · 2008/07/03(Thu) 20:20:14

>>99
Thanks for this link. I've had to rely on JAST up until now.

And playing them in Japanese can be a chore, even after two
years of studying the language. I like to keep study and leisure
seperate.

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 00:06:06

>>102

What are you if you're doing dutch?

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 00:08:31

So what are you if you're studying dutch?

**American Unko** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 00:47:43

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**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 02:59:33

>>107
He thinks you're trolling him.

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 03:32:39

>>107 Don't worry..it's just a 2ch troll.
I love that anime, too.

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 04:40:09

>>102
The fact that Japanese language classes are usually filled with wapanese faggots doesn't really help.

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 08:52:04

>>115
I mildly enjoyed Run Lola Run once, does this make me a Hitler-worshiping Germanophile? How about all those kids that liked Rammstein?

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 12:00:38

>>116
You mildly enjoyed Run Lola Run ONCE.
And you only watched it.
Are you some sort of troll, sir?

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 12:30:54

Run Lola Run is a crap movie. I get shivers when people mention it.

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 15:03:02

>>118
It's called an orgasm.

**maji** · 2008/07/04(Fri) 23:54:56

Hello Foreigners.
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Multilingual support is management of category-tags, Upload to SMILEVIDEO, maintenance information and help information.
It is not announced on the date when correspondence is started.
But correspondence will begin in this summer.

Nico news release(japanese)
http://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/2008/07/001368.html#world
Sorry, I'm poor at English.
Please try translation by oneself.
http://babelfish.yahoo.com
And please search the how-to of Nico by oneself.

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 00:44:01

>>115
Says the guy who is posting on an English-language board on 2ch.

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 03:13:59

>>120
Oh, wow, this is unfortunate.
Think of all the childish people that will flock there.
You've seen their comments, right?
Full of swearing and sarcasm...

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 05:10:28

>>120
facepalm.txt

That's just what we fucking need, all the fat yaoi fangirls uploading their shitty Naruto AMVs and commenting with their retarded "XD"s and "Kawaii~!"s and hackneyed 4chan memes.

Goddammit.

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 06:16:22

>>120

Fuck.

That was where I escaped all the Youtube nonsense. The language barrier was my only line of defense from the idiots on the internet.

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 08:08:21

>>121
The difference is that I'm not a faggot.

I'm a lifeguard in real life. My power level is supressed into practical non-existance.

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 08:09:53

>>120
I already have an account there. I usually only go there to see how many hits FPS videos get.

Well, the Japanese sure like watching Bioshock. Playing it, not so much.

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 09:51:02

>>125
>The difference is that I'm not a faggot.
Every Wapanese in denial thinks this.
If you have anything to do with Japan and you're white you're Wapanese, just accept it. There's no shame in that.

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 13:44:41

>>127
no its not about liking japan or the language or anime.
those things dont make you a faggot. its when you cant
hide your power level[tatemae]. this is the difference between anon
on the chans that hardly speak of their hobby in real life and the faggots
that parade around in their naruto outfits and shout dattebayo or kawaii desu ne
without understanding how fucking stupid they look for it.

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 13:59:43

western otaku follow their hobby with what they have.
we watch all the same anime you like (on the internet).
we play the same eroge you like (download or wait years for a translation)
we have words that only otaku understand like you.
not all of us are outcast by society. if you learn to "control your power level" (tatamae)
figures posters dolls touhou (damn you /jp/) and other things are popular with us.

WE ARE THE SAME AS YOU ONLY NOT JAPANESE

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 14:55:58

>If you have anything to do with Japan and you're white you're Wapanese, just accept it

Either you are trolling me or you are severely butthurt about being called a weaboo in the past

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 15:55:19

>>129
Grammar much?

**maji** · 2008/07/05(Sat) 17:39:07

>>124
It looks like 2ch is our last line of defense. I pray that the kanji in Nico Nico comments scare the idiots away.

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**maji** · 2008/07/10(Thu) 03:01:01

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrpMy5dKGNE

**maji** · 2008/07/10(Thu) 06:26:45

>>134
Funny, I would have preferred a Rickroll.
And yet, it was somewhat humorous.

**maji** · 2008/07/10(Thu) 22:12:40

>>134
Attitudes like this is why I hide my power levels.

**maji** · 2008/07/19(Sat) 06:32:54

>>128
qft

**maji** · 2008/07/19(Sat) 07:22:57

My room is plain.
No posters, no figures.
However, I've got a short stack of bad manga in a corner.
I should really take care of that.

**American Unko** · 2008/07/20(Sun) 02:41:24

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**maji** · 2008/07/29(Tue) 08:37:03

how do you post on 2ch?
http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1144048955/

**maji** · 2008/08/23(Sat) 22:52:24

nurupo

**maji** · 2008/08/23(Sat) 23:22:00

>>141
galtu

**maji** · 2008/08/25(Mon) 03:02:44

omg!!!

**maji** · 2008/08/29(Fri) 20:33:43

fuck japan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**maji** · 2008/08/30(Sat) 01:35:57

How about it?

**maji** · 2008/08/30(Sat) 07:53:06

I'm not an otaku.
I'm just a fat guy obsessed with anime, manga, video games, eroge, light novels and other Japanese goods.
I'm also really into science (mostly physics), mathematics and computers. I also do not go outside often since I'm a unemployed and don't care about the so called real life.
But calling me an otaku is a bit of a stretch. Even if someone thinks I am, it's not like that's everything I am. I'd like to think there is to me than a simple label like "otaku" could describe.

**maji** · 2008/08/30(Sat) 15:05:38

So, you're not just an otaku, you're some other stuff too.

**maji** · 2008/09/08(Mon) 01:28:23

Hey guys, where are you from ?

**maji** · 2008/11/01(Sat) 01:50:44

Principality of Sealand

**maji** · 2008/11/01(Sat) 03:08:43

>>146
Too bad, you are an otaku

**maji** · 2008/12/02(Tue) 04:02:02

die wapanese fuck bitch. die stupid ugly waps

**YES sama** · 2008/12/03(Wed) 12:50:57

Do you know Ochinching?

**maji** · 2008/12/03(Wed) 13:28:06

>>152
Nope, sorry.

**Yi-JohnJu** · 2008/12/03(Wed) 14:29:07

chonun irubonsaramiyeyo

**maji** · 2008/12/03(Wed) 18:52:58

How about American superheroes?

Anyone into those?

**JohnJu** · 2008/12/04(Thu) 15:50:44

jmgadw knows adtcht!

**maji** · 2009/02/28(Sat) 01:01:17

May I ask all that Are these thread' Western Otakus mean EURO Otakus and North Americans
Otaku or Japanese Kansai?