Western Otaku Thread

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:48:24

I want to know what Japanese people think of the growing population of western otaku. Also, if any Japanese Otaku want to know how western otaku act, feel free to ask.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:53:12

we think they act stupid

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:55:51

You shouldn't act like that in public.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:56:51

do you like flat chest?

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:58:08

>>1
Do foreign people play the X-rated video game?

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:58:25

I love flat chest.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:58:41

I haven't had a date in my entire life.
So, I probably wouldn't care about chest size.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:59:08

>>5
Yes

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 02:59:45

Of course

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:00:06

Of course

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:00:12

Of course

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:00:38

>>5
By X-rated games, do you include visual novels with sex?

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:02:15

>>12 Yes.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:03:04

>>4
There is a large English speaking roricon/lolicon/flat-chest community.

>>5
A lot of the dedicated western otaku enjoy playing games like clannad, muv-luv, kanon, and other popular x-rated or x-rated version games.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:04:40

>>5
Usually, the visual novels that are officially translated aren't very good.
However, there are many fans for certain games not released outside Japan.

Some people even provide patches to change the text to English.
You buy the game, then apply the patch.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:07:38

>>15
>buy
what is this "buy"?

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:11:18

>>16
...ah. I understand.
Let's not talk about that.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:21:03

I'm sure the western otaku would be pleased to hear about your interest in their likes and activities.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:28:08

Hello.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:35:45

>>19

Hi! How are you?

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:36:52

chat in English Comics
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1212679438/

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:45:27

>>16
>what is this "buy"?

"Buy" involves one person exchanging monetary currency in exchange for another's goods.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:49:37

>>22

the poster was obviously making a joke about downloading software instead of purchasing.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:49:56

I'm a westerner who buys occasionally to support the creators.
But when the games aren't available located locally and you have to pay
high shipping expenses on top of everything else, it really discourages
you. After all, you're not even getting a translation, but relying on a
crack/manipulation of the original software for it to be in English.
So I only buy occasionally from the creators I think deserve it.
I usually buy the cheaper games, like Touhou is quite affordable.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:51:38

>>1
There is no such thing as western otaku. Only weeaboo. Some more extreme than others.

**The Red Barron** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:52:43

Yeah same here. For instance, I fucking love eroge games, but few are in English. I buy them when I can, most of them are pretty much gone besides torrents though. Not to mention all the money I'
m saving...
Translate more shit if you want us to start buying it. If I could walk into a store and see some good h-games I'd buy those over shit like Halo any day.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 03:53:47

>>25

This is mostly true. But I'm willing to bet there are a few thousand otaku at least
out there.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 04:10:01

>>26

No, no, no

That traditional business model is all wrong and way too expensive.
There's no way I'm willing to pay money to support a third-party translation/localisation/censorship
industry. Look what happened to the anime localisation industry. Those companies are the first major
casualties of modern file-sharing.

I want the Circles/Developers to sell their works straight from their site. They don't have to waste
resources on packaging/distribution, and they might even make use of fan-translations where available.
It would be much easier to pay for software and music if I didn't have to go to the trouble of buying a plastic disc
from overseas, but could pay instantly for the information on it via paypal.

As it is, any of their works will find its way on the internet within a few hours of its physical release at Comiket/Reitaisai/whatever.
If the first place a particular doujin is available on the web is on the creator's website for a paid download, it makes torrents seem somewhat
silly and more abusive. Obviously most smart people will first torrent it, then pay for it if they like it/are proper citizens. So obviously
file-sharing will always have a place on the net. But if I wanted to support a given music/comic group, something like a paid download (or even
a paypal donation link; it comes to the same thing) would be far more effective.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 04:12:28

I buy figurines.
will that help the industry?

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 04:38:09

What is the ANIME which foreigners like?

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:02:48

>>30
Dragonball, Pokemon, and Yu-Gi-Oh have had the most widespread popularity in the west in the past.

Besides that the most popular series include Eva, Cowboy Bebop, Hellsing, Gundam WING, and Speed Racer (MachGoGoGo!)

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:04:21

>31

In other words, we only like the shitty animu.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:10:21

>>31 you forgot Ghost in The Shell, Naruto, One Piece, Death Note, Code Geass, that sort
of thing.

I don't actually think Gundam is all that popular.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:18:51

>>31

Fuck you and learn to quote properly. I don't like most of those, I'm just naming the ones that are, without argument, the most popular

Also this is probably the most accurate portrayal of western otaku I can find.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm477651

As compared to Genshiken:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1940399

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:24:43

>>33
I didn't, its just that those shows aren't nearly as popular as the ones I listed, with the exception of maybe Naruto.

I mean, Code Geass? Seriously? That only is getting half the ratings GiTS did, and GiTS itself got shit ratings.

He isn't asking "what are your favorites?", he is asking "which are most popular?". That doesn't include hailed-yet-marginally-popular series.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:27:27

What the hell is "otaku" exactly? Because I'm pretty sure we can't really call westerners with that word.

Any Japanese native fluent enough in English to explain the meaning of "otaku" in English terms? What does it translate to? "Geek"? "Social reject"?
I'm sure it's not "retarded fanboy of all things Japanese, preferably two-dimensional".

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:34:38

>>36
An otaku is an extreme hobbyist.

It doesn't just refer to anime maniacs.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:50:04

>>30

Most anime is fan-subtitled within days of release, so the foreign market is exposed to new anime constantly. In terms of popularity, big name shows like Haruhi, Lucky Star, Kaiji, and Code Geass are big in the western world.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 05:51:50

>>36
I'm pretty sure every westerner who calls himself "otaku" fits the descriptions you have put forth.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 09:10:11

>>35
But the popular shows aren't usually favored by "otaku". The most popular
shows will always be the mainstream, mass-produced shounen stuff.
Right beneath that category are the slightly less big, shounen/shoujo/seinen
type shows, like Death Note and Code Geass, usually aimed at the teens/high-schoolers
that get popular in the West among the "anime fanbase".

The real otaku watch the smaller but still lucrative seinen we all know and love.
Your average American "Anime fan" might have watched a few of the more popular ones within
this category, but mostly will stay out of it or just alongside it, with popular shows like
KyoAni adaptations of Clannad... Higurashi... stuff like that. You'll be hard pressed to find
any of these guys that played the original games the shows are based off of though, or even know
the games exist. They make me sick with their ignorance, but that's life.

A big difference too is a lot of the Western fanbase is female, and significantly younger than
Japanese Otaku. This is would probably explain a preference for Shounen stuff, since girls usually
prefer that sort of thing.

**maji** · 2008/06/28(Sat) 09:25:34

hello
are >>1 foreigner?
I'm Jpn who am able to speak English and have american girlfriend.
you know,there are some people who use dirty or barbarous words,but don't mind.

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**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 00:37:25

>>42
yum yum

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 01:40:48

>>36
"Geek" would be the closest. Someone who has an unhealthy obsession.
The word has a negative connotation.

Anyone who willingly calls themself "otaku" and is not japanese is a wapanese faggot.

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 04:56:00

>>44
I'd assume that the Japanese otakus don't call themselves that either.

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 04:58:50

>>45
Otaku always reminded me more of neckbeard than geek.
It's not something anyone actually calls themselves, but it's tossed around a lot for ironic insult purposes.

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 05:35:15

>>41

>>1 here, yes I am a American living in a state called North Carolina. Most of the people using foul language are western posters anyway, so don't worry about it.

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 06:33:55

>>47
>Most of the people using foul language are western posters anyway, so don't worry about it.

"Foul language" is an irrational concept. Words can't be "bad", only people can. If you can't take a "bad" word, then that says more about you than the one who is using it.

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 07:26:57

>>48
Cunt!

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 08:56:50

>>48
Is that what they're teaching in high school these days?

Keep your half-baked postmodernism in /r9k/ where it can be appreciated by other pubescent pedants like yourself.

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 11:46:13

>>50
Whatever, Christfag. Isn't it Saturday? Why are you not in church molesting children?

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 12:06:05

>>47
2ch and 2chan are full of foul language, it's just not the kind of foul language you can understand.

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 12:33:46

>>51

Holy shit, kill yourself

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 12:39:46

>>53
Oh my, "shit"!? Isn't that "BAD LANGUAGE"!? You should feel like a BAD PERSON for using BAD WORDS!

**maji** · 2008/06/29(Sun) 13:40:40

Speaking of shit, this topic very quickly went to it.

**maji** · 2008/06/30(Mon) 08:36:45

hey god, hentai people are over here.