【初心者】キリスト教＠談話室868【歓迎♪】

**まなみ** ◆7bSIO.1SUI · 2020/11/20(金) 02:46:45.48

キリスト教に興味がある方の談話室です。
楽しい雑談、つらい悩み事、キリスト教について簡単な質問など何でもどうぞ。

前スレ
https://rio2016.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/psy/1604759304/

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/20(金) 20:40:48.72

>>1いい加減、気づきなさい
https://file21-d.kuku.lu/files/20201120-1136_d9777c82dc1676e08515e57d3a02c143.jpg
https://vps13-d.kuku.lu/files/20201120-1140_106ae82f36fa23ba7919822c809c46b3.jpg

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/20(金) 20:42:43.84

https://file21-d.kuku.lu/files/20201118-2111_02889e4bbfb20c137763c0063277c904.gif
https://vps16-d-cdn.ahk.jp//files/20201114-1103_c954ddba5afb39bde225dd3a424587c8.jpg

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 18:42:50.32

自分もしかして古いpc改造ハードル高そうなことするのかな・・？

**日本鬼子@2ch覚者** ◆rlzTxpgv.dqM · 2020/11/21(土) 18:45:23.26

>>4
ガンがれw
Linuxで遊べそうだね。

ジャンク巡りするのもありw

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 18:46:24.46

鬼子協力してよ・・・
supermicro x8sax
このマザーボードマニュアル探してよ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 18:48:53.61

精神病であるから　治療が必要である。

**日本鬼子@2ch覚者** ◆rlzTxpgv.dqM · 2020/11/21(土) 18:49:20.97

>>6
ちょっとPC起動するね？

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 18:49:24.85

悪魔も同じ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 18:51:12.17

生きるための修業は　誰かに任せておけばよい。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 18:51:41.37

二匹の蛇がいて　一方が上昇に向かい　もう一方が下降に向かっているというのは　あれは嘘だよ。
両方とも同じ方向に向かっている。

だまされないでね。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 18:53:02.68

自分を神だと強烈な自己暗示をかけて　まわりも一緒にかけてしまう。
言葉の最期に脅迫めいたことを書く、つまりそれが本音。
>>3

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 18:54:50.44

他にある　?

悪魔の作話だよ。

神から　人間を奪い、人間から　神を奪った。>>3

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 18:56:09.91

>>6
https://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/results.cfm

**さぁばんと Servant** ◆bjckDZNOKs · 2020/11/21(土) 18:57:18.83

ありがとうございました。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 19:00:48.15

釈迦もイエスも法華も　宗教化したらしめいよ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 19:02:31.28

邪魔です。
邪魔なの。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 19:04:03.71

脳裡に焼き付いた亡霊がとれないよ。

苦しい。

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:04:10.55

>>14
Windowsサーバー用のマザーみたいだね。
Dimm3スロット1チャンネルとは一般向けには珍しいよね。

Lanｘ２あるし省電力にしてゲートウェイサーバーにしてみると遊べるかも。

Windowsでレイド５かぁ。

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 19:12:45.22

>>19
なんかマザーボードのマニュアルなさそうだよ。

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:13:34.72

>>20
リンク先にPDFあるでしょｗ英語だけど。

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:14:04.82

マニュアル
https://www.supermicro.com/manuals/motherboard/X58/MNL-1063.pdf

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:15:22.77

>>20
サーバー用だから古い規格のコネクターが有るんだろね。

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:25:01.72

あー…一時DIMMｘ３で1チャンネルだったかも。

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 19:30:34.09

https://i.imgur.com/9ZATyt2.jpg

LEDランプのすぐ右の緑と白のヨレ線のコネクタはなんだろう？
マニュアルに載っていない。。。

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:33:32.91

>>25
13.14みたいだからHDD・LEDじゃないかな？

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:35:39.03

>>25
あ、まちがった緑のね？

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 19:36:58.31

>>26
なんかたどっていったらそっちの方に線があったね。
ところでマニュアルのどこに書いてあるの？

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 19:37:13.32

色々モヤモヤしてたのが繋がってきて浮かび上がってきた裏側の嘘と真実が入り混じった現代社会実態がキモすぎる
、特にネットの世界では自分で調べ何が本当で何が嘘なのか考え、物事には全てに表があり裏がある中で、
ますます自分なりの答えを持つことが分からなくなっています。
そんな中で最後は自分がどのように解釈するのか重要だと感じています。
さまざまな解釈が出来るようになっており、真実も嘘も紙一重、表裏一体、それに尽きると思います。
僕らでさえ、それぞれが違う解釈をしているのも最後まで楽しんでもらい、事実です。
そしてどちらにもなりうるそんなお話を、何を感じ、何を想い、どう解釈し結論付けるのか、自分なりの答えを見つけて貰えれば嬉しく思います。
それは各個人それぞれが決められる、それでいいんだと思います。

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:39:50.36

>>25
2-28にパワーLEDみたいなことが書いてる。

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:40:58.68

>>28
2-28にパワーLEDって書いてる。

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 19:41:03.08

LEDとFANとスイッチのコネクタが肝みたいだね・・・

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:42:10.43

>>28
2-28　のB

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 19:43:19.91

>>32
LEDはパワーとHDDだけで良いよ。
LANはケースに付いて無いだろうし。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 19:44:57.89

ただ、よく考えたらあれって自分の…こう…ひどいことさせたなって思いっきり論破してあげてくださいっていう
しょせんフィクションだから黒幕ってひどいやつだなぁって思いました。
フィクションは架空なの？フィクションとリアルもそうフィクションだって世界を変えるよ。
騙されたと思うかどうかは心が決める。何が嘘で何が真実か、何がフィクションで、何がリアルか。
まぁ、ショックを受けた大半の人は言葉にショックを受けたんだと思うけど、一緒に黒幕のリアルな言うことを間に受けちゃダメ！それを凌辱して！

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 19:46:33.49

正直、合わない人は結構いるかなと思いました。でも、外の世界を自分だと思ってしまう人もいるだろうな。と。
アレに相応しい論破はフィナーレしか思い付かなかった。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 19:53:44.72

なぜなんだ！それがもっと出れば良いんだけど、なぜだ。良い形でああなるという。
その答えはこれからも群衆、民衆、観客、だから頭を働かせずに書かれた質が低い悪口が探し続けるのであった。
狂ってるというか、そういう多い時代なんだろう。そのものではなくて、その概念こそが一番恐ろしくなる。
「ねじ込んだ素晴らしい才能をリスクもなく手間もなく潰した」のではなく、「無理やり素晴らしい才能に見限られた」のかもしれないのでは。と思います。

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 20:02:07.86

電源は何ワットぐらいの必要かな？
自分的には750Wか850Wが良いかと思ってるんだけど・・・
GPUはGTX1080TI辺り狙ってる・・・

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:03:32.72

私のかわいさは・・・ちょっと恥ずかしいわね二十分に伝わったかな？ちょっと腹黒なところも見えちゃったけど・・・気にしないでね！
皆さん終わりありがとうございました！
本当の本当にやりすぎにはただし、注意が必要だ。
あまりやりすぎてしまうと、人間性が失われて、コマのようになってしまうために必要になってくるのが、
“愛のあるエピソード”。じつはとって付けたエピソードではなくて、キャラクターの魅力を引き出すエピソードを考えてあげなければいけません。
こうすることで、予想外の“出来事と、としての魅力を両立させることができるのだ。？

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 20:04:46.31

>>38
７５０ｗかなぁ
マザーが２４ピン＋８ピン＋４ピンだからコネクター確認しないとね。

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 20:05:45.29

CPUファンがうるさいので変えようかと思っています。
虎徹Ⅱに。グリスはMX4(だっけか？）とかもどうでしょうかね？

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 20:10:11.34

>>41
虎徹、評判良いからあとはスペースかな？

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:10:16.97

ⓃⒽⓀ要点を絞る都合で一部私見あり

な？この国はさ
少しやり過ぎなくらいに左翼的なことを喚いてるぐらい出ないとすぐに
こんなに狂ってしまうんだよ

おかめどんぶりゃどんぶりゃ、マンコもアナルも舐めたらあかんで。らちかんぞ。

**まなみ** ◆7bSIO.1SUI · 2020/11/21(土) 20:11:00.09

＞メタトロン

外出自粛で“高級グルメ”人気　2万円のローストビーフが...
https://www.nippon.com/ja/news/fnn20201121110444/

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:11:16.88

56 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2016/10/11(火) 03:28:29 ID:
構成比の参考　poverty (2016-09-15)
26%強2chMate 0.8.9.6　20%弱JaneStyle/3.83　10%前後BB2C/1.3.60　8%弱twinkle/6.3　3%hidden　ここまでで全体の約2/3　残り33%がその他（各3%以下）

158948 Monazilla/1.00 (2chMate 0.8.9.6) 2chMate 26.68
115459 Monazilla/1.00 (JaneStyle/3.83) JaneStyle 19.38
60218 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Trident/7.0; Touch; rv:11.0; BB2C/1.3.60) like Gecko BB2C 10.1
46989 Monazilla/1.0 (twinkle/6.3) Twinkle 7.88
(none) 17874 none hidden 3.0
13892 Monazilla/1.00 (JaneStyle/3.81) JaneStyle 2.33
12744 Monazilla/1.00 Live2ch/1.46 Live2ch 2.13
8289 Monazilla/1.00 (2chMate 0.8.9.11 dev) 2chMate 1.39
4761 Monazilla/1.00 (2chMate/0.8.9.3) 2chMate 0.79
3671 Monazilla/1.00 (V2C/3.0.3) V2C 0.61

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:11:48.16

3438 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko InternetExplorer 0.57
3179 Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 9_3_5 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/601.1.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.0 Mobile/13G36 Safari/601.1 Safari 0.53
2765 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko InternetExplorer 0.46
2735 0.45
2618 Monazilla/1.00 (JaneStyle/3.82) JaneStyle 0.43
2568 Monazilla/1.00 (2chMate 0.8.9.6 dev) 2chMate 0.43
2394 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko InternetExplorer 0.4
2125 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko InternetExplorer 0.35
2098 Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; JaneStyle/3.83) (JaneStyle/3.83) JaneStyle 0.35
2090 Monazilla/1.00 (JaneXeno/150312) JaneXeno 0.35
2058 Monazilla/1.00 (BathyScaphe/947) BathyScaphe 0.34
1973 Monazilla/1.00 (2chMate/0.8.9.2 dev) 2chMate 0.33
1958 Monazilla/1.00 (compatible; 2chGear 0.5.5.0) 2chGear 0.32
1791 Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; JaneStyle/3.83) JaneStyle 0.3

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:12:31.30

1752 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Trident/7.0; Touch; rv:11.0; BB2C/1.3.57) like Gecko BB2C 0.29
1718 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.116 Safari/537.36 0.28
1565 Monazilla/1.00 (Ciisaa/1.44 (A)) Ciisaa 0.26
1510 Monazilla/1.00 (En2ch/1.3.13) En2ch 0.25
1361 0.22

おかめどんぶりゃどんぶりゃ、マンコもアナルも舐めたらあかんで。らちかんぞ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:13:38.26

57 動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる 2016/10/11(火) 03:28:57 ID:
1347 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.116 Safari/537.36 0.22
1328 Monazilla/1.00 (V2C/3.0.1) V2C 0.22
1207 2chMate/0.8.9.5 2chMate 0.2
1129 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/52.0.2743.116 Safari/537.36 Chrome 0.18
1101 Monazilla/1.00 gikoNavi/beta70/1.70.1.860 gikoNavi 0.18
1094 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0 Firefox 0.18
1084 Monazilla/1.00 (JaneView/1507130036) JaneView 0.18
1077 Monazilla/1.00 (2tch/1.0) 2tch 0.18
1026 Monazilla/1.00 (JaneXeno/160624) JaneXeno 0.17
972 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.116 Safari/537.36 0.16
964 0.16ⓃⒽⓀ

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:14:14.98

941 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/52.0.2743.116 Safari/537.36 Chrome 0.15
850 Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 9_3_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/601.1.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.0 Mobile/13E238 Safari/601.1 Safari 0.14
831 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/49.0.2623.112 Safari/537.36 Chrome 0.13
788 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Trident/7.0; Touch; rv:11.0; BB2C/1.3.54) like Gecko BB2C 0.13
786 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0 Firefox 0.13
784 Monazilla/1.00 (JaneXeno/151212) JaneXeno 0.13
783 Monazilla/1.00 (2chMate/0.8.9.0) 2chMate 0.13
762 Monazilla/1.00 (JaneXeno/160302) JaneXeno 0.12
756 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0 Firefox 0.12
704 Monazilla/1.00 (2chMate 0.8.9.9 dev) 2chMate 0.11
696 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0 Firefox 0.11
694 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.116 Safari/537.36 0.11
644 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.116 Safari/537.36 0.1
638 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/52.0.2743.116 Safari/537.36 Chrome 0.1
623 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.116 Safari/537.36 0.1
618 0.1
606 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/51.0.2704.79 Safari/537.36 Edge/14.14393 Edge 0.1
600 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Trident/7.0; Touch; rv:11.0; BB2C/1.3.59) like Gecko BB2C 0.1
600 Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 9_3_2 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/601.1.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.0 Mobile/13F69 Safari/601.1 Safari 0.1

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 20:20:03.46

それと質問なんだけどパワーLED二つあるのね・・？
コネクタ形状が違うっぽいけどそれはケースについてくるコネクタに合わせればいいの？

与作 · 2020/11/21(土) 20:23:29.61

>>25
コードネジ螺子してあるのは最初からか？
自分でねじねじしたんか？

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:23:33.06

「個性的」なのに「自分の芯がない」「自分磨きしない」のに「自意識過剰」
「趣味に生きるタイプ」なのに「人に誇れる趣味がない」
「他人の気持ちに鈍感」なのに「他人の悪意に敏感」

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:24:29.99

SLIP表示で判別できる主な接続情報（2016年10月時点）
要点を絞る都合で一部私見あり

各種検索エンジンの語句にvvvvvvを加える事でIPの強制公開されているスレッドが検索結果に並び、SLIP値の照合を行いやすい

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:25:36.56

固定回線：AABB-CCCC
プロバイダー会社（ドメイン値）は主にBB値で判別
AA値は「そのプロバイダーが接続によく使う第1オクテット」を割り出して、BBの被った他のプロバでないことを証明できる　BBのサポート的位置
第2オクテットまでを検索語句に加えると、検索結果に反映される

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:26:26.19

サーバの種類
agree carpenter daily echo hanabi hayabusa6 hayabusa7 hayabusa8 hitomi IPv6tr
karma krsw mint nhk2 potato qb5 qb7 raptor rio2016 shiba tamae
tanuki tomcat vipper　など
BBはサーバごとに無期限固定で修正の必要が無いためリスト化が比較的容易
サーバは単純な数で20～30あるが、特に人の集まりやすいスレや板を含むサーバはさらに限定される
過疎サーバのBB値も、AA（特定のプロバイダーが接続によく使う第1オクテット）から候補の絞り込みが可能

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:27:57.68

「ホストのドメイン値」とは、ホストネーム全体から「数字を抜いた」値が元にされていると見られる
例　softbank126042179179.bbtec.net　→　softbank.bbtec.net　から生成される
この方式が、同じプロバイダーで同じBB値が表示され続ける仕掛けになっている（shibaサーバでsoftbank.bbtec.netならばBB値はc8）

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**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 20:27:59.77

>>51
基本電気では対になってるコードはねじねじにするよ。
ただＰＣケースについてくるコードがネジネジになってるかどうかは分からないけど・・・

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:28:34.92

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**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:29:11.15

構成比の参考　poverty (2016-09-15)
26%強2chMate 0.8.9.6　20%弱JaneStyle/3.83　10%前後BB2C/1.3.60　8%弱twinkle/6.3　3%hidden　ここまでで全体の約2/3　残り33%がその他（各3%以下）

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:29:38.60

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**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:31:01.54

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**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:31:25.49

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**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:35:04.17

Sigmund Freud (/frɔɪd/ FROYD;German: [ˈziːkmʊnt ˈfʁɔʏt]; born Sigismund Schlomo Freud; 6 May 1856 – 23 September 1939)

was an Austrian neurologist and the founder of psychoanalysis, a clinical method for treating psychopathology through dialogue between

a patient and a psychoanalyst.

Freud was born to Galician Jewish parents in the Moravian town of Freiberg, in the Austrian Empire. He qualified

as a doctor of medicine in 1881 at the University of Vienna.

Upon completing his habilitation in 1885, he was appointed a docent in neuropathology and became an affiliated professor in 1902.

Freud lived and worked in Vienna, having set up his clinical practice there in 1886. In 1938,

Freud left Austria to escape Nazi persecution. He died in exile in the United Kingdom in 1939.

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:37:52.72

In founding psychoanalysis, Freud developed therapeutic techniques
such as the use of free association and discovered transference,
establishing its central role in the analytic process.

Freud's redefinition of sexuality to include its infantile forms led him to formulate the Oedipus
complex as the central tenet of psychoanalytical theory.[8] His analysis of dreams as wish-fulfillments
provided him with models for the clinical analysis of symptom formation and the underlying mechanisms of repression.

On this basis Freud elaborated his theory of the unconscious and went on to develop a model of psychic structure
comprising id, ego and super-ego.
Freud postulated the existence of libido, a sexualised energy with which mental processes and structures
are invested and which generates erotic attachments, and a death drive, the source of compulsive repetition, hate, aggression
and neurotic guilt.
In his later works, Freud developed a wide-ranging interpretation and critique of religion and culture.

Though in overall decline as a diagnostic and clinical practice, psychoanalysis remains influential within psychology, psychiatry,
and psychotherapy, and across the humanities.
It thus continues to generate extensive and highly contested debate with regard to its therapeutic efficacy,
its scientific status, and whether it advances or hinders the feminist cause.
Nonetheless, Freud's work has suffused contemporary Western thought and popular culture.
W. H. Auden's 1940 poetic tribute to Freud describes him as having created "a whole climate of opinion / under whom
we conduct our different lives."

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:39:34.45

Freud was born to Jewish parents in the Moravian town of Freiberg, in the Austrian Empire (now Příbor, Czech Republic),
the first of eight children.
Both of his parents were from Galicia, a historic province straddling modern-day West Ukraine and southeast Poland.
His father, Jakob Freud (1815–1896), a wool merchant, had two sons, Emanuel (1833–1914) and Philipp (1836–1911),
by his first marriage. Jakob's family were Hasidic Jews and, although Jakob himself had moved away from the tradition,
he came to be known for his Torah study. He and Freud's mother, Amalia Nathansohn, who was 20 years younger
and his third wife, were married by Rabbi Isaac Noah Mannheimer on 29 July 1855.
They were struggling financially and living in a rented room, in a locksmith's house at Schlossergasse 117
when their son Sigmund was born.
He was born with a caul, which his mother saw as a positive omen for the boy's future.

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:41:43.57

In 1859, the Freud family left Freiberg.
Freud's half-brothers emigrated to Manchester, England, parting him from the "inseparable" playmate of his early childhood,
Emanuel's son, John.
Jakob Freud took his wife and two children
(Freud's sister, Anna, was born in 1858; a brother, Julius born in 1857, had died in infancy)
firstly to Leipzig and then in 1860 to Vienna where four sisters and a brother were born: Rosa (b. 1860),
Marie (b. 1861), Adolfine (b. 1862), Paula (b. 1864), Alexander (b. 1866). In 1865, the nine-year-old Freud
entered the Leopoldstädter Kommunal-Realgymnasium, a prominent high school. He proved to be an outstanding pupil
and graduated from the Matura in 1873 with honors. He loved literature and was proficient
in German, French, Italian, Spanish, English, Hebrew, Latin and Greek.

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:43:51.30

Freud entered the University of Vienna at age 17.
He had planned to study law, but joined the medical faculty at the university, where his studies included philosophy under Franz Brentano,
physiology under Ernst Brücke, and zoology under Darwinist professor Carl Claus.
In 1876, Freud spent four weeks at Claus's zoological research station in Trieste, dissecting hundreds of eels in an inconclusive search
for their male reproductive organs.
In 1877 Freud moved to Ernst Brücke's physiology laboratory where he spent six years
comparing the brains of humans and other vertebrates with those of frogs and invertebrates such as crayfish and lampreys.
His research work on the biology of nervous tissue proved seminal for the subsequent discovery of the neuron in the 1890s.
Freud's research work was interrupted in 1879 by the obligation to undertake a year's compulsory military service.
The lengthy downtimes enabled him to complete a commission to translate four essays from John Stuart Mill's collected works.
He graduated with an MD in March 1881.

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:46:49.44

In 1882, Freud began his medical career at the Vienna General Hospital.
His research work in cerebral anatomy led to the publication of an influential paper on the palliative effects of cocaine
in 1884 and his work on aphasia would form the basis of his first book On the Aphasias: a Critical Study, published in 1891.
Over a three-year period, Freud worked in various departments of the hospital.
His time spent in Theodor Meynert's psychiatric clinic and as a locum in a local asylum led to an increased interest in clinical work.
His substantial body of published research led to his appointment as a university lecturer or docent in neuropathology in 1885,
a non-salaried post but one which entitled him to give lectures at the University of Vienna.

**日本鬼子＠2ch覚者** ◆3yNEHqeJlglY · 2020/11/21(土) 20:47:07.78

>>50
多分そう。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:54:36.08

In 1886, Freud resigned his hospital post and entered private practice specializing in "nervous disorders".
The same year he married Martha Bernays, the granddaughter of Isaac Bernays, a chief rabbi in Hamburg.
They had six children: Mathilde (b. 1887), Jean-Martin (b. 1889), Oliver (b. 1891), Ernst (b. 1892), Sophie (b. 1893), and Anna (b. 1895).
From 1891 until they left Vienna in 1938, Freud and his family lived in an apartment at Berggasse 19, near Innere Stadt,
a historical district of Vienna.

photograph
Freud's home at Berggasse 19, Vienna
In 1896, Minna Bernays, Martha Freud's sister, became a permanent member of the Freud household after the death of her fiancé.
The close relationship she formed with Freud led to rumours, started by Carl Jung, of an affair.
The discovery of a Swiss hotel guest-book entry for 13 August 1898, signed by Freud whilst travelling with his sister-in-law,
has been presented as evidence of the affair.

Freud began smoking tobacco at age 24; initially a cigarette smoker, he became a cigar smoker.
He believed smoking enhanced his capacity to work and that he could exercise self-control in moderating it.
Despite health warnings from colleague Wilhelm Fliess, he remained a smoker, eventually suffering a buccal cancer.
Freud suggested to Fliess in 1897 that addictions, including that to tobacco, were substitutes for masturbation, "the one great habit."

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:55:02.26

Freud had greatly admired his philosophy tutor, Brentano, who was known for his theories of perception and introspection.
Brentano discussed the possible existence of the unconscious mind in his Psychology from an Empirical Standpoint (1874).
Although Brentano denied its existence, his discussion of the unconscious probably helped introduce Freud to the concept.
Freud owned and made use of Charles Darwin's major evolutionary writings, and was also influenced by Eduard von Hartmann's The Philosophy
of the Unconscious (1869).
Other texts of importance to Freud were by Fechner and Herbart　with the latter's Psychology as Science arguably considered to be of underrated significance
in this respect.
Freud also drew on the work of Theodor Lipps who was one of the main contemporary theorists of the concepts of the unconscious and empathy.

フロイト　interesting

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:57:20.50

Though Freud was reluctant to associate his psychoanalytic insights with prior philosophical theories,
attention has been drawn to analogies between his work and that of both Schopenhauer and Nietzsche,
both of whom he claimed not to have read until late in life.
One historian concluded, based on Freud's correspondence with his adolescent friend Eduard Silberstein, that Freud read Nietzsche's
The Birth of Tragedy and the first two of the Untimely Meditations when he was seventeen.
In 1900, the year of Nietzsche's death, Freud bought his collected works; he told his friend, Fliess,
that he hoped to find in Nietzsche's works "the words for much that remains mute in me."
Later, he said he had not yet opened them.
Freud came to treat Nietzsche's writings "as texts to be resisted far more than to be studied."
His interest in philosophy declined after he had decided on a career in neurology.

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 20:58:53.30

Freud read William Shakespeare in English throughout his life, and it has been suggested that his understanding of human psychology
may have been partially derived from Shakespeare's plays.

Freud's Jewish origins and his allegiance to his secular Jewish identity were of significant influence in the formation of his intellectual
and moral outlook, especially with respect to his intellectual non-conformism, as he was the first to point out in his Autobiographical Study.
They would also have a substantial effect on the content of psychoanalytic ideas, particularly in respect of their common concerns with depth interpretation
and "the bounding of desire by law".

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:01:01.37

自動翻訳機

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:02:57.20

Carl Jung
Carl Gustav Jung ; 26 July 1875 – 6 June 1961) was a Swiss psychiatrist and psychoanalyst
who founded analytical psychology.
Jung's work was influential in the fields of psychiatry, anthropology, archaeology, literature, philosophy, and religious studies.
Jung worked as a research scientist at the famous Burghölzli hospital, under Eugen Bleuler. During this time, he came to the attention of Sigmund Freud,
the founder of psychoanalysis. The two men conducted a lengthy correspondence and collaborated, for a while, on a joint vision of human psychology.

Freud saw the younger Jung as the heir he had been seeking to take forward his "new science" of psychoanalysis and to this end secured his appointment
as President of his newly founded International Psychoanalytical Association. Jung's research and personal vision, however, made it impossible
for him to follow his older colleague's doctrine, and a schism became inevitable.
This division was personally painful for Jung and resulted in the establishment of Jung's analytical psychology
as a comprehensive system separate from psychoanalysis.

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:04:45.14

Among the central concepts of analytical psychology is individuation—the lifelong psychological process of differentiation of the self out of each individual's
conscious and unconscious elements.
Jung considered it to be the main task of human development.
He created some of the best known psychological concepts, including synchronicity, archetypal phenomena, the collective unconscious,
the psychological complex, and extraversion and introversion.

Jung was also an artist, craftsman and builder as well as a prolific writer. Many of his works were not published until after his death
and some are still awaiting publication.

ユング

**まなみ** ◆7bSIO.1SUI · 2020/11/21(土) 21:05:53.33

>>57
> 基本電気では対になってるコードはねじねじにするよ。
>

今、スマホで画像見たけど。
これってまさに素人配線、きれいじゃないよ。
線はねじっちゃいけないの、余計に長くなるから。
二本以上はインシュロック、結束バンドで締めるか、あるいは糸で縛る。
そして配線は短くしないで、余裕持たせて取り回すの。
なんか放熱板に配線かかってない？これよくないよ。
月刊トランジスタ技術あたりの雑誌で学んだらいいと思う。
元配線組み立てプロのわたしから見たら、う～ん？と唸ってしまう。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:08:11.20

Jung was one of the first people to define introversion and extraversion in a psychological context.
In Jung's Psychological Types, he theorizes that each person falls into one of two categories, the introvert and the extravert.
These two psychological types Jung compares to ancient archetypes, Apollo and Dionysus.
The introvert is likened with Apollo, who shines light on understanding.
The introvert is focused on the internal world of reflection, dreaming and vision.
Thoughtful and insightful, the introvert can sometimes be uninterested in joining the activities of others.
The extravert is associated with Dionysus, interested in joining the activities of the world.
The extravert is focused on the outside world of objects, sensory perception and action.
Energetic and lively, the extravert may lose their sense of self in the intoxication of Dionysian pursuits.
Jungian introversion and extraversion is quite different from the modern idea of introversion and extraversion.
Modern theories often stay true to behaviourist means of describing such a trait (sociability, talkativeness, assertiveness etc.)
whereas Jungian introversion and extraversion is expressed as a perspective: introverts interpret the world subjectively,
whereas extraverts interpret the world objectively.

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:10:23.79

Persona
See also: persona (psychology)
In his psychological theory – which is not necessarily linked to a particular theory of social structure – the persona appears
as a consciously created personality or identity, fashioned out of part of the collective psyche through socialization, acculturation and experience.
Jung applied the term persona, explicitly because, in Latin, it means both personality and the masks worn by Roman actors of the classical period,
expressive of the individual roles played.

The persona, he argues, is a mask for the "collective psyche", a mask that 'pretends' individuality, so that both self and others believe in that identity,
even if it is really no more than a well-played role through which the collective psyche is expressed.
Jung regarded the "persona-mask" as a complicated system which mediates between individual consciousness and the social community:
it is "a compromise between the individual and society as to what a man should appear to be".
But he also makes it quite explicit that it is, in substance, a character mask in the classical sense known to theatre, with its double function: both intended
to make a certain impression on others, and to hide (part of) the true nature of the individual.
The therapist then aims to assist the individuation process through which the client (re)gains their "own self" – by liberating the self,
both from the deceptive cover of the persona, and from the power of unconscious impulses.

Jung has become enormously influential in management theory;
not just because managers and executives have to create an appropriate "management persona" (a corporate mask) and a persuasive identity,
but also because they have to evaluate what sort of people the workers are, in order to manage them (for example, using personality tests and peer reviews).

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:11:15.71

ユングは面白いよ。

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 21:14:48.61

>>77
俺が組んだんじゃないよ・・・
2012年ぐらいに中古で買ったんだよ。（たぶんBTO）
当時\50000ぐらい。
ただ裏にあるUSBコネクタがあるんだがそこがちょいと壊れたかな。
だから新しいUSB3.0カードを買ってきてPCI-EXに増設したぐらい。
でもね、自分も製造業やってきた人間だから機械は当たり前だけど電気関連も会社で学んできたし工事もしてきた。
制御盤なんかの配線やってきたけど低い電圧の線は対になっていたらねじねじにしていたよ。
まあ人によるけど、機械業界（制御盤）ではねじねじが基本。
インシュロックはダクトから出てくる線に使ってまとめる。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:15:07.71

Shadow
See also: shadow (psychology)
The shadow exists as part of the unconscious mind and is composed of the traits individuals dislike/would
rather ignore: repressed ideas, weaknesses, desires, instincts, and shortcomings.
The shadow is the result of an individual's attempt to adapt to cultural norms and expectations.
Thus, this archetype not only consists of all the things deemed unacceptable by society, but also those that are not aligned
with one's own personal morals and values.

Jung argues that the shadow plays an important role in balancing one's overall psyche - "where there is light, there must also be shadow”.
Without a well-developed shadow, an individual can become shallow and extremely preoccupied with the opinions of others - i.e.,
a walking persona.[86] Not wanting to look at their shadow's directly, Jung argues, causes many individuals to project them onto others.
Basically, the qualities an individual may hate in another, are actually also present in that individual, who wishes not to see them.
In order to truly grow as an individual, Jung believed that both the persona and shadow should be balanced.

The shadow can appear in dreams or visions, often taking the form of a dark, wild, exotic figure.

死にたくなかったら　シャドウは勉強した方がいいな　チョーセンジンわ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:18:44.64

Paranormal beliefs
Jung had an apparent interest in the paranormal and occult.
For decades he attended seances and claimed to have witnessed "parapsychic phenomena".
Initially he attributed these to psychological causes, even delivering a 1919 lecture in England for the Society for Psychical Research
on "The Psychological Foundations for the belief in spirits".
However, he began to "doubt whether an exclusively psychological approach can do justice to the phenomena in question"
and stated that "the spirit hypothesis yields better results".[110] Showing his own skepticism toward this postulation,
as he could not find material evidence of the existence of spirits.

Jung's ideas about the paranormal culminated in "synchronicity", his idea that meaningful connections in the world manifest through coincidence
with no apparent causal link. What he referred to as "acausal connecting principle".
Despite his own experiments failing to confirm the phenomenon he held on to the idea as an explanation for apparent ESP.
As well as proposing it as a functional explanation for how the I-Ching worked, although he was never clear about how synchronicity worked.

ホレ　宗教やる奴の基本態度だ。

**熾天使Metatron** ◆Zvj14gOX91ap · 2020/11/21(土) 21:18:54.35

PCケースはサーマルテイクのやつを狙っています。
一応ファンは二個ついているみたい。
まあ、購入してみて届いて製品の様子見たら追加でケースファンを購入しようと思っています。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:20:39.65

Alchemy
The work and writings of Jung from the 1940s onwards focused on alchemy.

In 1944 Jung published Psychology and Alchemy, in which he analyzed the alchemical symbols and came to the conclusion
that there is a direct relationship between them and the psychoanalytical process.
He argued that the alchemical process was the transformation of the impure soul (lead) to perfected soul (gold),
and a metaphor for the individuation process.

In 1963 Mysterium Coniunctionis first appeared in English as part of The Collected Works of C. G. Jung.
Mysterium Coniunctionis was Jung's last book and focused on the "Mysterium Coniunctionis" archetype, known
as the sacred marriage between sun and moon.
Jung argued that the stages of the alchemists, the blackening, the whitening, the reddening and the yellowing,
could be taken as symbolic of individuation—his favourite term for personal growth .

つまり　錬金術だよ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:23:57.83

ユングは解りやすい。
よしお　カバラ読んだら　ユングも読んどけば。

特に必要ないけど。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:24:47.88

聖書しか呼んだことが無いとか　しかも　セイレイとか。

ハハハハ

**まなみ** ◆7bSIO.1SUI · 2020/11/21(土) 21:26:07.81

>>81
所詮、民生用ってとこね。
産業用じゃありえないよね。
わたしも少し制御盤やったけど、ねじらないよ。
制御盤はインシュロック。
それより制御盤はシーケンサー考えてると、頭が痛くなってきた。
電源や充電器はインシュロックわずかで経費削減に糸で縛ってた。
あと第一興商のカラオケも作ったけど、あれどうしたかな？

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:26:48.63

しかし　こいつら良くやってるね　カミとかなんとか。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:29:34.15

Léopold Szondi

Léopold Szondi ( March 11, 1893 – January 24, 1986) was a Hungarian psychiatrist and psychoanalyst,
psychopathologist and Professor of psychology.
Founder of the concept of fate analysis.
He is known for the psychological tool that bears his name, the Szondi test.
The achievements of the scientist are: The Szondi test, Fate analysis and Fate psychology.

これがすさまじいのよ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:29:58.01

おしえない。w

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:31:37.40

キリ教と巫俗の区別もつかないでやんの。💓

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:34:41.29

　だから　何回も言うように　ザイニチさんのやっていることは　自分たちはキリスト教や法華経だと思い込んでいるけれど

原則的にはムーダン(巫俗)以外の何物でもないの。

朝鮮の場合の霊媒は　そのほとんどが(白魔術でもオマイラがやれば　すべて)黒魔術なのな。

黒魔術は　妖魅界の妖魅が　この三次元物質界に出現する時の唯一の媒介そのものなの。

低次元アストロ界のモンスターがこの世に発現すると　神聖な高次元の存在が　我々を助けることが非常に困難になる。

助けようとして命を落とした神々も　沢山いるの。

だから　ウリストもセーシューも　世界中の何の落ち度も無い人々が　不幸になるからやめてくれ　と言っているの。

どうしてもやめない場合は　祖国に帰ってやってくれということなの。

あなた方の存在が　低次元の怪物たちを呼び込み　周りを不幸にしているって知ってた　?

地球そのものも宇宙そのものも　不幸にしていくから　どこかほかでやってくれと言っている。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:36:21.30

何回言えば解るのだろう　?

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:37:26.41

梵壇だから　教えられないのよ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:39:15.13

נחושתן, נחש הנחושת

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:41:48.73

完全に情緒領域に憑依されてるから　たぶんやめられないんだろうね。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:43:17.87

フロイトは　オラはピンとこないのね　ごめん。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:46:22.85

無職で神学をグダグタ言うやつに比べたら　チベット高原の羊飼いの少年の方が　よっぽどわかっとるわ。

**神も仏も名無しさん** · 2020/11/21(土) 21:47:14.67

小さいころから　絶えず死が身近だからな。