From the perspective of another scientific field, I think Woit’s argument is unfair. The timeline is, – Mochizuki claimed to have proved it, and a paper was published in a journal that might have problems. – Scholze and Stix pointed out the problem and had a dialogue with Mochizuki, which ended in a disagreement. – Dupty and Joshi, objective third parties, argued that Scholze and Stix’s points were problematic. – Scholze and Stix offered no rebuttal to those points. Here, Woit is telling us to submit complete proof to reliable journals. However, to move this discussion forward, either we point out new problems with Mochizuki’s proof, we accept the proof, or the mathematical community should set up a committee to verify the proof. Anyway, I don’t think the ball is in Mochizuki’s court. 0232132人目の素数さん2023/07/15(土) 16:18:01.77ID:Twh29Rh/ タイムラインとか言って、出版(2020)とSS文書(2018)の順が逆じゃねーか 数学の正否を論じるのにそもそも第三者とかいねえと思うが、 Dupuy & JoshiがSS文書をproblematicと言ってるのだけ引用して その両者がIUT論文は証明になってないと明言してる方はスルーかよ 0233132人目の素数さん2023/07/15(土) 17:14:05.28ID:CXkqKxb9 大体MSが正しいとかわめいてるのは 自己愛的国粋●違い 0234132人目の素数さん2023/07/15(土) 23:33:24.08ID:ufcOQii7 Woitのブログは、コメント記入は2ケ月後までだから、あとひと月半で逃げ切りになるのか。 0235132人目の素数さん2023/07/16(日) 00:16:32.11ID:ZvHz6K9q woitブログ記事にないが、 scholze stixの京大訪問前からあった 文科省マスコミ京大RIMSの失態。
KK, First, to correct your timeline: the journal published the papers in 2020, Scholze and Stix was 2018. This really is the source of the whole problem. These papers should never have been published over the strong objections of experts in the field and the lack of any significant revision of the papers to successfully meet the objections.
In 2020, see https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/szpirostillaconjecture.pdf Scholze extensively rebutted Dupuy’s points.
Joshi is not defending the argument in the Mochizuki papers, but believes he has his own somewhat different argument. He believes that he sees how to overcome the problem pointed out by Scholze-Stix, but as far as I know he has not yet produced his own version of what the Mochizuki lacks (a detailed and convincing proof of Corollary 3.12 and thus abc).
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(6) For the lay-readers, in mathematical logic, a false proposition can be used to arrive at any conclusion one wants. So Scholze-Stix report provides no useful conclusion regarding Mochizuki’s work.
I’ve expressed no opinion and have no opinion about the validity of your argument that the Scholze-Stix objection can be overcome, allowing a proof of Corollary 3.12 and thus abc. Here I have just been stating the obvious: the way to conclusively resolve this is to produce such a proof and have it carefully checked by experts.
あとは、Woitブログの「Million Dollar Prize for Scholze and Stix」のとおり 雑誌に投稿して懸賞1.4億円の挑戦もできる。 0317132人目の素数さん2023/07/19(水) 08:55:22.96ID:MR68zS+c >>あとは、Woitブログの「Million Dollar Prize for Scholze and Stix」のとおり >>雑誌に投稿して懸賞1.4億円の挑戦もできる。