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VIPQ2_EXTDAT: none:none:1000:512:: EXT was configured カリナは彼氏作って帰ってきたしニンニンは泣きながら帰ってきたけどジゼルはどうなる 歌ってのはな、芸術点で決まるんだよ
エスパに芸術性がありますか？
ブルピンに芸術性がありますか？(笑) カリナとあの俳優釣り合ってなくない？
カリナならもっと大物狙えるのに カリナてめえインスタグラマー時代の方が輝いてたよ
今はもう見る影もねえよ ニュース記事英語わからないどなたか翻訳プリーズです
Netizens bash LE SSERAFIM over live Easy encore stage on M! Countdown: ‘The group lacks vocally'
Things are not so ‘easy’ for the fourth-generation girl group LE SSERAFIM, now struggling to make it through poor live vocals allegations. On February 29, 2024, the musical quintet secured their significant music show win on Mnet's M! Countdown against TWICE for their latest leading single, Easy. Following their triumph against the hitmaking third-generation K-pop girl group, LE SSERAFIM members dove into their encore performance.
These displays make for an indispensable segment of K-pop music shows, demonstrating the idols' live singing abilities. The newest title track from their third mini album bears a relatively different musical tone than their previous signature hits. However, many fans have recognised the difficulties the track's overall lower register attaches to its live performance. But the LE SSERAFIM encore stage has broadly sought sharp criticism as netizens couldn't bear to sit through the underwhelming presentation.
Nate Pann, a popular South Korean internet forum, first became the discussion pad for this issue. As soon as a post titled, ‘Have you guys watched LE SSERAFIM’s encore stage?' drew K-netizens' attention, a heavy discourse followed. This thought-provoking conversation was carried forward to other social media platforms as well. Now, even international fans have immersed themselves in speculating about the baffling connections with this performance.
Reactions to LE SSERAFIM's Easy Encore Stage on M Countdown
A multitude of harsh comments arose from within the group's fanbase as their admirers expressed concern for their upcoming Coachella debut in April. LE SSERAFIM debuted under the Source Music banner, which was eventually clubbed under the HYBE Labels roster. エスパやブルピンはチャゲアス
でもチャゲアスでは生き残れない
生き残ったのは草野マサムネ
そーゆーこと The latest development has caused many fans to question the entertainment agency at large and if it's investing enough into holding vocal lessons for the artists. Some fans particularly pointed out the company was vastly interested in expanding its reach in the West, leaving no room for the basic necessities to flourish on their radar.
On the contrary, some fans couldn't brush away the idea of the group members looking extremely down and nervous.
Even though the group drew flak for their live performance on the music show, some fans rose to members' support. “I think Kazuha and Chaewon did well," responded a fan. Another one noted, "Kazuha's voice suits this song the best."
YouTube comments:
“It's their job as singers to be able to sing well. I know they're very talented in dance and performance which makes this whole thing worse because if they can't sing, it just drives them into a corner to be given lashings … hybe do not care for a vocal coach for them it seems … has it not occurred to them that they cannot always rely on lip syncing???"
“Not a fan or a hater but im just curious how is it gonna be at coachella. hoping that the confidence will be boosted.”
“This isn't an issue of lazy idols, it's an issue of live singing being optional, we need to destroy lipsyncing. vocal lessons cost a lot and take a LOT of time, there's currently no incentive for companies to invest in them since idols can just lip-sync through their entire promotions and only have to sing for 1-2 minutes during encores every now and then.”
Reddit comments:
"I think most comments are logical but I also find it hugely hypocritical for Fearnots to defend LSF with "they weren't known for singing anyways, they are more of performance idols" like what bu**sh** is this, isn't the basic criteria of kpop idols to be.... singing (and performing)?"
“I have just watched it and they sound like me and my friends on a drunk karaoke night”
“The group lacks vocally. Their last encore made a lot of people realize that. The criticism(and some hate as well) they received must have reached them and now they're uncomfortable when it comes to encores. / Easy also isn't a hard song to sing so them being shaky when they should be holding a simple note is not a good look. Yeah Sakura is the worst vocally but everyone else were only marginally better. / And I don't think Hybe will ever give them vocal lessons so future encores will also be a mess.”
X (formerly Twitter) reactions:
“I don't get why people are angry at people criticizing Lesserafims encore like they have ONE job and that's singing obv people are gonna be pissed at them, they have been editing their performance and this is the only stage where they can't pull those stunts.”
Regardless of which side you belong to, this debate has once again initiated a much-needed conversation around the heated live singing vs lip-syncing rhetoric. Fans have noticed the members' underconfident display. And it could be argued that the artists' fatigue after a long day in front of the camera played a huge role in derailing their active contributions. However, multiple allegations of the same nature drive one to the corner to consider all sides of the story. ルセラもう露出狂ダンス凄いよな
後ろを向きながら腰をクネクネ
ジェニのエアセックスならぬエア騎乗位の動きだね ピオナがどれだけエスパ叩いても、さくらやカズハが内永えりに勝てる要素が1つもないんだよな
Vol、ダンス、語学何も勝てる武器がないルセラｗあっ編み物はさくらの武器でいいよ >>38
編み物も咲良が本当にやってるか怪しい
hkt時代に聞いた事ない >>39
わざわざお前らジジイに分かりやすく昔のアーティストで例えてあげた俺の優しさに触れて泣け？ >>38
ロエベｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ >>47
ロエベのバッグ50万くらいするの知らないの？ ジゼルって樽体型だろｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗくびれ無しの滑稽スタイルｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ K-netizens Criticized HYBE Groups After LE SSERAFIM’s Controversial Encore Stage
The live singing skills of HYBE artists have become controversial after LE SSERAFIM’s encore stage.
On March 3, a post was made on the popular Korean online community theqoo with the title “Compilation of HYBE’s 4th, 5th generation boy groups’ encore stages.”
The post includes 4 videos of HYBE’s boy groups performing live after receiving trophies at music programs. These videos are TXT’s encore stage for Sugar Rush Ride’s first win on M Countdown, ENHYPEN’s encore stage for Bite Me’s first win on M Countdown, BOYNEXTDOOR’s encore stage for But Sometimes’ win on Show Champion and TWS’s encore stage for plot twist’s win on Music Bank. These videos all have one thing in common, the groups’ lacking live singing, with the exception of TWS.
Notably, this post was made after another HYBE group, LE SSERAFIM, was wrapped around controversies over their bad live singing during the encore stage for the first win of their recent comeback song “Easy.”
In the comment section, many netizens have expressed criticism for HYBE’s lack of vocal training. The top comments include, >>49
無能は自分が無能であることが分からず有能な者を無能だと思い込むw
あわれあわれ >>51
エルメスのバッグ8000万するよ？？？？ >>52
足長い
ほぼ脚
宮脇咲良の胴長短足とは大違い トワは無冠だけど音盤ミリオンだろ
一方冠はあるけど…… >>50
エスパの話飽きたからtwiceでも見るか LE SSERAFIM’s Sakura Gets Criticized Heavily For Bad Live Singing
LE SSERAFIM recently took home a trophy on M!Countdown. The win was an achievement for the girls, but it also meant that they had to participate in the live encore. Many groups dread the encore stage for music shows as it is done without any backing track. Netizens often use this as a way to gauge if groups have singing chops or not.
The girls sang their new hit song “Easy.” The song proved to be difficult as a few members failed to impress with their singing skills. A clip of the encore went viral with over 2.7 million views. >>50
来週の冠のためにスミン頑張ってるんでしょ ピオナはサクラを実力以上に持ち上げすぎ、だからアンコールであんな表情になる ジゼルって日本人のくせに日本デビューも出来ないし紅白にも導けないし終わっとるわ >>62
初動ミリオンで無冠
2週目即ミリオンで8冠
好きな方を選べばいいよ >>66
あれワザとだよ
これからどんどんアンコール上手くなる自己プロデュース >>50
TWICEが勝つ方がみんな喜ぶのになあ
変なのに邪魔されてしまった 本当にルセラがあの程度の実力と実績で年収一億超えてるんだったらK-POP終わるわ
これからステージの質が上がる要素がまったくない 冠に価値はあるけどアンコールでグループの価値落としすぎだろ そういや何で急にYGはavexと共同オーディションやる事になったんだろう
やっぱXGの影響デカイのかな まあウィンターだけは声が独特だから可もなく不可もなくって感じだな
芸術性はゼロだが ルセラ月間リスナー1400万間近！！！！
LE SSERAFIM Monthly Listeners on Spotify (Peak: 13,303,445)
(02.18)：12,874,185
(02.19)：12,924,953 (+50,768)
(02.20)：12,980,730 (+55,777)— Peak: 13,303,445
(02.21)：13,065,510 (+84,780)— Peak: 13,303,445
(02.22)：13,159,604 (+94,094)— Peak: 13,303,445
(02.23)：13,323,977 (+164,373)— NEW PEAK
(02.24)：13,456,930 (+132,953)
(02.25)：13,456,930 (+117,156)
(02.26)：13,694,896 (+237,966)
(02.27)：13,796,331 (+101,435)
(02.28)：13,881,085 (+84,754)
(02.29)：13,971,323 (+90,238) センスある人間はエスパとかプルピンとか聞かねえって]冷静に考えりゃ分かるだろ まさかリコーダーで意識を逸らしにくるとは思わなかった
途中からものすげえ笑えてきて元気出た エイベックス様様なんだよ
SMがavexに頼んでBoAを売り出したんだから >>79
音源で差が有り過ぎでしょ
あと金曜にカムバしなきゃいいだけ >>81
先輩のBTSやブルピンもプロモーションに金かけまくって売れてる風商法で成り上がったけど実力あったから残れたもんな
ルセラはどうなるか >>50
ピオナ負けたあああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ >>89
エスパ
デビュー4年目でたった850万wwww お前らがカリナをイジメすぎたせいで昨日泣いてたらしいな ■ このスレッドは過去ログ倉庫に格納されています
